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12/14/2006 Entry: "angry" I was going to write about something else tonight, but this is more prudent since some dude was just killed. I don't give a fuck what he did. Either murder is wrong, or murder is fine. You CAN'T say it's OK in one instance and not in another. Rape, murder, genocide, SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHED WITH MORE MURDER. I'm sick of those God damn hypocrytical bastards who claim they love jesus bad enough you think they'd fucking buttfuck him if they had the chance (as long as their ogre friends didn't see) jumping at the bit to exact their dirty slimy revenge on someone. Why not just lynch him and string him up? Why pretend this is just? THIS ISN'T JUST! THIS IS REVENGE! CALL IT WHAT IT IS AND STOP FUCKING LYING TO ME, YOURSELF, AND YOUR GOD DAMNED GOD! I don't give a flying fuck if your moral code says murder is just fine and dandy. Whatever. At least then the battle lines are drawn clearly. I might dislike you, I might be against you and try to stop you, but I can at least respect you for being consistant. However, people who claim murder is wrong and then go ahead and do it... fuck them. They're 10 times worse. I'd take fucking Charlie Manson over these 10,000 jesus buttfuckers chomping at the bit to murder someone - claiming it's just and the right thing to do. Apparently it's OK to play God when it lets you kill someone, but definately not when it comes to stem cell research that might save lives. Its human nature to want to kill the shit out of other people. It's ALWAYS us vs them deep down inside. You can either rise above or not. These bastards are simply giving into their murderous urges and then trying to pretend it's fine and dandy and that they are taking the high road. CALL IT WHAT IT IS! MURDER, AND YOUR FINE WITH IT! I'm so sick of the lying and subversion. The purpose the the "justice" system is to protect society - not to exact revenge on people. Life in jail = protecting society Hell, it they'd just call it "the revenge system" I don't think I'd have nearly as big a problem with state sanctioned murder. At least then all our cards on on the table. So you may ask yourself - why is this a religion issue? Frankly, it's because everything is a religion issue. Religion may do a ton of good in the world, but is certaintly doesn't help our "us vs them" mentality. The best thing religion does is give people hope and meaning in their lives - it lets people feel good about themselves. However, when it lets people feel good about themselves while they do horrible things - then it's a problem. An atheist who is for capital punishment on the grounds that sometimes murder is justifiable using a secular moral theory that is both valid and sound - and calls it what is is - deserves respect even if I disagree with his chosen moral theory. We simply see the world differently. A theist who is for capital punishment using a Christian moral theory can eat a fucking dick because no Christian morals that I've studied allow for capital punishment. Claiming to be "Christian" locks you into a pretty rigid moral theory that I know all the rules of. Most likely they are butchering some secular moral theory, throwing God into it, and then molding to fit their needs. These aren't real Christians. I could tell them 100 ways how their bullshit contradicts itself but as long as they have God backing them up logic doesn't matter to them. A theist who is for capital punishment based on a secular moral theory and who admits all the inherent contradictions involved in such a decision and who compensates for them - also deserves respect and would be fun to debate. I think they'd be on pretty shaky ground, however. I'd say you'd need to pick between your religion and your secular moral theory - but thats for another discussion. Religion impacts everything in our lives. It gives people hope. It starts wars. It provides comfort when a loved one dies. It justifies the killing of someone's loved one. It helps the elderly not fear death. It helps suicide bombers not fear death. It's helped create and maintain societies with conventional morals and those societies have thrived. It's helped the citizens of those societies rationalize horrible immoral acts. It funded great scientific discoveries in the early years of learning. It's made thousands of people in the world dumber by allowing them to believe in magic over facts and logic. It would have been nice if I could have believed in God when my Mom died. But I don't. I know my whole family does and they take comfort in the fact that she is in a better place - either in Heaven or with "the creator." I don't. To me, she is dead, period. I will never see her again. I will never feel her again. That's it. The End. Nothing more. When I die it will be exactly the same. A number of years ago I was comforting a good friend of mine when her Grandmother died. She was in pieces. She was very religious so I told that her grandmother was in a better place, in heaven, looking down on her etc etc. She mentioned (between sobs) that I (me) didn't believe any of that. I replied that it didn't matter if I did or not. What mattered is that she believed it. It helped. I don't know which one of us is correct, and I never will know. (Unless I'm wrong; I suppose I'd probably come around if my spirit ended up floating around somewhere.) I can see the appeal, but the jury is still out on religion.
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My religion says no hate mail. ;-) Posted by Sis @ 02/22/2006 01:16 PM PST Good post. You know my viewpoint on this stuff. You also know that you have a much friendlier attitude towards religion than I do. I wanted to strengthen your point about civilizations and societies. Yes, religion helps build great civilizations, but it not only justifies but in some cases propels them to obliterate other, equally great civilizations. Yeah, pretty horrible and immoral. Jerks. I am close to several religious people, and while I respect their decisions to be religious, the angry German in me (I swear I'm descended from Nietzsche sometimes) insists that religion is an unnecessary crutch that can only make one weaker. I usually tell my inner angry German to sit in a corner and pout, though, so religious people reading this should not send me hate mail. Posted by Qehn @ 02/22/2006 04:59 AM PST
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